Podcasts & Audio

Insightful audio programs and interviews by Dr. Susan Heitler โ€” drawing from over 40 years of clinical experience with depression, anxiety, and couples therapy.

Dr. Heitler’s Audio Programs

Professional audio courses on couples therapy, depression, anxiety, and conflict resolution.

Couples Therapy

Working with Couples in Conflict

๐ŸŽง 3 Parts ยท ~108 min total ยท Audio Course

Dr. Susan Heitler demonstrates how to use couples’ conflicts to facilitate effective therapy. With actors role-playing clients, these cases vividly illustrate how to guide couples from antagonism to growth and goodwill.

Part 1 โ€” Essential Premises

Frames a conceptual map of couple treatment so therapists know where they are heading and how to get there.

Part 2 โ€” Symptom Reduction, Guiding & Coaching

Techniques for rapid access to deeper underlying issues, strategies for guiding resolution of conflicts, and exercises for improving couples’ communication skills.

Part 3 โ€” What Do I Do When They Start Fighting?

Dramatizes ways to take charge when couples erupt in anger at each other within a session.

Depression

Depression: A Disorder of Power

๐ŸŽง ~43 min ยท Audio Program

Discover new strategies for emerging from the hopelessness and negative thoughts of depression. Based on the innovative theories first presented in her highly acclaimed book From Conflict to Resolution, this lively audio program by psychologist Susan Heitler sheds new light on depression and what makes it go away.

In Part I, Dr. Heitler introduces three examples of depression:
  • Bonnie, frustrated with her inattentive husband
  • Carl, unemployed and discouraged about finding a job
  • Jack, down and out since his girlfriend left him
Part II examines what these cases have in common to explain that depression:
  • May be triggered by a loss โ€” Jack’s girlfriend, Carl’s job
  • Centers around a conflict, either within yourself, between people, or with a situation
  • Results from giving up on getting your concerns addressed
Part III focuses on techniques for breaking through the blues:
  • Escaping from the submissive mode
  • Visualizing to discover underlying concerns
  • Focusing on positive solutions
  • Giving up on control and thereby gaining power
Anxiety

Anxiety: Friend or Foe?

๐ŸŽง ~66 min ยท Audio Program

Based on Dr. Susan Heitler’s innovative approach, this program explores how to transform anxiety from an overwhelming force into a powerful ally. Learn practical strategies to understand anxiety as a tool for identifying underlying issues, clarifying your concerns, and prompting action.

Introduction to Anxiety as a Positive Force

  • Understanding anxiety’s role in personal and emotional conflict
  • Shifting perspectives: Viewing anxiety as an ally rather than an adversary

The Conflict-Based Theory of Anxiety

  • Exploring the connection between awareness, conflict, and anxiety
  • Identifying when anxiety arises and how to address the standstill it represents

Turning Anxiety Into Action

  • Practical tools to use anxiety for problem-solving
  • Strategies to clarify concerns and move toward resolution

Identifying Productive vs. Unproductive Anxiety

  • Recognizing when anxiety helps versus when it hinders
  • How to avoid the traps of worry, regret, and catastrophic thinking

Applications in Real Life

  • Using anxiety as a tool for personal growth in scenarios such as decision-making, new challenges, and overcoming failures
  • Case studies: Turning shyness, panic attacks, and agoraphobia into opportunities for self-awareness and action

Interactive Therapeutic Interviews

  • Live demonstrations where participants explore anxiety through therapeutic techniques
  • Real-world applications: Anxiety in career decisions, life transitions, and recovery from setbacks
Couples & Conflict

Conflict Resolution for Couples

๐ŸŽง 3 Parts ยท Audio Course

Powerful, actionable techniques for couples to resolve conflicts effectively without falling into unproductive arguments. Learn how to address sensitive topics, improve communication, and convert conflict into cooperative problem-solving.

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
  1. Foundations of Conflict Resolution

    • Introduction to effective communication techniques
    • How to provide information without insult or escalation
  2. Active Listening for Dialogue Progress

    • Techniques for listening that keep conversations productive and forward-moving
    • Strategies to express feelings in a non-hurtful way
  3. Turning Conflict into Problem Solving

    • Clarifying initial positions
    • Exploring underlying concerns and motives
    • Choosing solutions that optimize for both partners
  4. Addressing Escalated Conflicts

    • Tools to recognize when arguments have taken a negative turn
    • Methods for extricating from arguments and avoiding blame
  5. Cleaning Up After Arguments

    • Techniques for managing the emotional “toxic spill” after a fight
    • Steps to prevent similar conflicts from recurring
  6. Practical Demonstrations

    • Interactive sessions featuring actors portraying couples in conflict scenarios
    • Live problem-solving exercises, Q&A with a live audience

Guest Podcast & Interview Appearances

Dr. Heitler as a featured guest on popular podcasts and interview programs.

Depression Relationships

Empowered Relationship Podcast โ€” Episode 169

๐ŸŽง ~44 min ยท Empowered Relationship Podcast

Discusses what to do when depression affects relationships, featuring Dr. Heitler’s insights on the “disorder of power” model and practical tools couples can use together.

GUEST: DR. SUSAN HEITLER

Susan Heitler PhD is a Denver clinical psychologist and widely-read author. Educated at Harvard and NYU, Dr. Heitler offers self-help information for individuals and for couples. She also writes for therapists, offering new understandings and treatments for anxiety, anger, depression, narcissism, and relationship challenges.

DEPRESSION:

“What triggers depression is feeling powerless and giving up on something you want.” โ€” Dr. Susan Heitler

  • Depression is a disorder of power
  • There is a continuum of depression from being down or blue to severe dysfunction
  • Get help if you or your partner are experiencing severe depression

3 P’S PRESCRIPTION FOR DEALING WITH DEPRESSION:

  • Pinpoint. Figure out the trigger. What is the bump in the road?
  • Pump up. Take a deep breath. Take a power pose. Imagine yourself getting bigger and taller.
  • Problem solve. Think of solutions from a much more empowered position.

HOW COUPLES CAN DEAL WITH DEPRESSION:

  • Share concerns
  • Listen to concerns
  • Aim for win/win solutions
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Depression Mental Health

MHM Actual Pro โ€” Treating Depression Without Medication

๐ŸŽฌ 1 hr 7 min ยท MHM Actual Pro ยท MommaFoxFire

In this in-depth interview, Dr. Heitler shares her clinical approach to treating depression without relying solely on medication. She discusses her conflict-based model of depression, practical prescriptions for patients, and how therapists can guide clients toward lasting relief through empowerment and problem-solving.

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Couples Relationships

The Meaningful Life with Andrew G. Marshall

๐ŸŽฌ Video Interview ยท The Meaningful Life Podcast

Forget fair fighting โ€” what you and your partner should aim for is win-win problem solving. Dr. Heitler explains how to investigate and share the deep-seated emotions behind a particular argument, so you can emerge stronger and more connected as a couple. Andrew and Susan explore how childhood patterns can be replicated in adult relationships and discuss a case study of a couple overcoming a toxic disagreement.

Couples

Bite Your Tongue: The Podcast โ€” Season I, Episode 7

๐ŸŽง Podcast Episode ยท Bite Your Tongue

A conversation with Dr. Heitler about collaborative dialogue and relationship techniques โ€” how to talk through differences without escalating conflict.

๐ŸŽง Listen on Apple Podcasts โ†’
Mental Health Relationships

The Dr. Drew Podcast

๐ŸŽง Podcast Episode ยท Dr. Drew

Dr. Heitler joins Dr. Drew to discuss her work and insights on mental health and relationships โ€” covering depression, anxiety, and the conflict-resolution framework that has helped thousands of couples.

๐ŸŽง Listen on Apple Podcasts โ†’